Got insuraunce???

[FIMotorsports]

So a guy from a local "un-legit" speed shop came running into my shop the other day looking for parts for a evo he screwed up. Couldn't figure why the transmission wouldn't come off untill he finally pried so hard that he broke the throw out bearing. (If your not aware, Evo's have a "pull" style throw out/pressure plate and you need to unlock it before you can attempt to drop the tranny). He not only broke the throw out bearing, but insisted it was ok to re-use the fluids that came out of the tranny and t case. The car has 23,000 and has original fluids. Due for new fluids but now the car has got original fluids back in it. I dont understand why people go to shady speed shops that may or may not know what they are doing?? Even if they are well knowledged, what happens if they forget to tighten something up and you wreck your car?? Can you say NO INSURANCE?? Your fucked outta your car. The economy is allready hurting and these people don't help the economy. Not only do legit shops have access to better pricing which means better deals to you, we also get the REAL parts straight from manufacturer. We have buy-ins with these companies. Tial i get from TIAL, not ebay and so on and so on. I have heard too many horor stories about peoples cars getting messed up by these un-legit speed shops. And back to the economy, they put nothing back, meanwhile we pay taxes, insurance, licensing, etc. etc. But we get robbed from the unlicensed no body's. Props to the site sponsors jannetty and myslelf. This is what we do EVERYDAY and NIGHT. This is what we do to put food on the table. So please, out of respect to us sponsors take your business to the legit taxpayers that are putting back to the economy. And besides, wouldn't it feel nice to know that you are leaving your car with the professionals and that we HAVE INSURANCE! Me personally, got nuttin to hide, ill put it out there, i got a million dollar insurance policy, and 30K covered for any one vehicle in my possesion. Which means unless your car is worth more than 30K it is FULLY covered. And even if you exceed that isn't 30K in your pocket better than nothing if god forbid the shop your car is at burned to the ground. And please, no negative feedback on this, i would like to know how people feel, but keep it positive, and dont shit talk. Respect is key. Thanks for listening guys. Let me know what you think

[EvoDan]

i agree with u...but what about the poeple that r trying to open a shop and dont have money to get insurence, licenses etc. people do work on friends cars, than there friends friends cars to make clients, make money and get established. i work on all my friends cars all the time. but than again this is just my hobby and a passion for now, not a career.
but i do understand exactly where u r coming from.

[FIMotorsports]

make money the legal way to start a shop. that's what they should do. Some of these people have been doing this for years, and they refuse to be "legit" cuz they dont want to take the loss in paying for all the insurance licensing and taxes etc. So get legit, or dont be doing ILLEGAL business and taking the money from us tax payers. Start a shop like a man, like i did. I'm living off romen noodles bro.

[FIMotorsports]

i agree with u...but what about the poeple that r trying to open a shop and dont have money to get insurence, licenses etc. people do work on friends cars, than there friends friends cars to make clients, make money and get established. i work on all my friends cars all the time. but than again this is just my hobby and a passion for now, not a career.
but i do understand exactly where u r coming from.

but thanks for your input. just puttin this out there to see what people think

[BoyBeaterTSi]

who cares.

[FIMotorsports]

who cares.

like i stated before. If you have nothing good to say then dont post in this thread. common sense.

[BoyBeaterTSi]

freedom of speech :) who cares.

[FIMotorsports]

that's kewl

[BoyBeaterTSi]

:woot

[GSX911]

I understand what you're saying but a lot of people I think, go to as you say "un-legit" shops is because sometimes, those that are doing this out of their garage or "backyard" know more, than those paying to own a shop. I've gone to plenty of shops, right here in CT, and laughed at some of the things that were going on and I don't even work on these things half as much as they do. Due to the competitiveness of shops and the ability to buy parts online cheaper than in a store, some shops feel they need to prove something. (ie. altering dyno numbers) Some shops love to cut corners, stall on jobs, or just make excuses.

Personally, I have had my car worked on once at a shop and I regret it 100%.

[FIMotorsports]

I understand what you're saying but a lot of people I think, go to as you say "un-legit" shops is because sometimes, those that are doing this out of their garage or "backyard" know more, than those paying to own a shop. I've gone to plenty of shops, right here in CT, and laughed at some of the things that were going on and I don't even work on these things half as much as they do. Due to the competitiveness of shops and the ability to buy parts online cheaper than in a store, some shops feel they need to prove something. (ie. altering dyno numbers) Some shops love to cut corners, stall on jobs, or just make excuses.

Personally, I have had my car worked on once at a shop and I regret it 100%.

understandable. But some of us "legit" shops out here are actually honest guys. I have done ALL of my own work to all of my cars. I was you not long ago. But sometimes if YOU can't get the job done yourself, your better off going to a legit shop rather than joe shmoe. Even if we did screw up your car somehow, we HAVE TO fix it. Because if you were smart then you would put a complaint in at the DMV. The DMV would make us fix it. But i wont take money from a customer untill after the test drive and they are FULLY satisfied with my work. Im just like that. I dont want you leaving my shop unhappy. It's just not an option.

[GSX911]

understandable. But some of us "legit" shops out here are actually honest guys. I have done ALL of my own work to all of my cars. I was you not long ago. But sometimes if YOU can't get the job done yourself, your better off going to a legit shop rather than joe shmoe. Even if we did screw up your car somehow, we HAVE TO fix it. Because if you were smart then you would put a complaint in at the DMV. The DMV would make us fix it. But i wont take money from a customer untill after the test drive and they are FULLY satisfied with my work. Im just like that. I dont want you leaving my shop unhappy. It's just not an option.

To my knowledge, you are a "new" shop? Correct me if I'm wrong. And yes, everyone is honest, and kind, and caring, about their customers and their feelings until down the road when it's no longer exciting to own a shop, but rather just another day at the office. Like I said before, I've been to a few "reputable" shops and they were not the honest guys we think of. Since then, I have become friends with the most honest DSM technicians and tuners around here and I would never think to go elsewhere. (Someguyonline will be the only person to fabricate and tune my cars. Raif will be the only transmission builder I will ever use. Tony has the most DSM parts around. And when theres no jack at the track, Roids is the only person to call to change tires. hahha)

Going to the DMV or the Better Business Bureau and filing a compliant rarely does anything from what I have seen a few times.

This is just my personal opinion. To each his own.

[FIMotorsports]

well much appriciated that you took consideration and were very respectful with your thaughts. Not every shop will treat you wrong though. But i hear where your coming from. Thanks for the input

[GSX911]

well much appriciated that you took consideration and were very respectful with your thaughts. Not every shop will treat you wrong though. But i hear where your coming from. Thanks for the input

Don't get me wrong, if I am ever in the area I will definitely stop in. Hopefully my observations of your shops performance will change my thoughts about speed shops in the area.

[FIMotorsports]

Don't get me wrong, if I am ever in the area I will definitely stop in. Hopefully my observations of your shops performance will change my thoughts about speed shops in the area.

ok. thanks man. And remember, EVERY shop is different.

[raif]

[QUOTE=GSX911;314844]To my knowledge, you are a "new" shop? Correct me if I'm wrong. And yes, everyone is honest, and kind, and caring, about their customers and their feelings until down the road when it's no longer exciting to own a shop, but rather just another day at the office. Like I said before, I've been to a few "reputable" shops and they were not the honest guys we think of. Since then, I have become friends with the most honest DSM technicians and tuners around here and I would never think to go elsewhere. (Someguyonline will be the only person to fabricate and tune my cars. Raif will be the only transmission builder I will ever use. Tony has the most DSM parts around. And when theres no jack at the track, Roids is the only person to call to change tires. hahha)

Going to the DMV or the Better Business Bureau and filing a compliant rarely does anything from what I have seen a few times.

This is just my personal opinion. To each his own.[/QUOT/)


Roids (4g63 99mirage) is the best jackman around guaranteed. I got him.

[FIMotorsports]

haha. word

[Paraquat]

10:50 bro, what're you sleeping there too?


--Steve

[FIMotorsports]

10:50 bro, what're you sleeping there too?


--Steve

no, but you gotta do what you gotta do to make it man. Only speed shop around open at midnight! lol

[Paraquat]

Although when I needed axle seals you were open at 9, and did have them in stock.


--Steve

[FIMotorsports]

yup. i stock ALOT of DSM and EVO parts and i AM open late often. specially on the weekends...

[fbodymechanic]

I make it simple and do my own work. If I CANT do it myself, there's only a couple of other people whom I trust to work on my car. The only insurance I need is to know whom I feel comfortable with, because if they are working on my car, they've already gotten my trust and respect. Insurance makes people feel more comfortable about leaving a car with someone they don't really know.

I guess I cannot relate I've never had any shop touch my car yet, and do not ever plan on it.

[FIMotorsports]

I make it simple and do my own work. If I CANT do it myself, there's only a couple of other people whom I trust to work on my car. The only insurance I need is to know whom I feel comfortable with, because if they are working on my car, they've already gotten my trust and respect. Insurance makes people feel more comfortable about leaving a car with someone they don't really know.

I guess I cannot relate I've never had any shop touch my car yet, and do not ever plan on it.

I can respect that, because before i had this shop i did ALL of my own work as well. But what happens when you need a dyno? Or does your friend have one of those in his backyard too?? lol. And i can guarantee that i can get parts cheaper then someone that doesn't have buy-ins direct with the companies that sell the best parts. This business doesn't just revolve around working on the actual cars, but parts and dyno as well. Dont trust us to tune your car? I have no problem renting the dyno to you and your tuner for a reasonable price... but again, thanks for the input

[2point2fast]

stree tuning is better anyway who cares about the numbers when you go to the track your mph will tell you the hp. the dyno you use is prone to breakn transmissions if the car hiccupps for a second. to much mass in the floor to stop or move

[FIMotorsports]

stree tuning is better anyway who cares about the numbers when you go to the track your mph will tell you the hp. the dyno you use is prone to breakn transmissions if the car hiccupps for a second. to much mass in the floor to stop or move

It is a fully brake loadable dyno. Havn't seen it break a tranny or t case yet. And we have put many high horsepower cars on it since i have been here including mark miners...

[_Adam]

Line breaks are your friend.

[fbodymechanic]

I can respect that, because before i had this shop i did ALL of my own work as well. But what happens when you need a dyno? Or does your friend have one of those in his backyard too?? lol. And i can guarantee that i can get parts cheaper then someone that doesn't have buy-ins direct with the companies that sell the best parts. This business doesn't just revolve around working on the actual cars, but parts and dyno as well. Dont trust us to tune your car? I have no problem renting the dyno to you and your tuner for a reasonable price... but again, thanks for the input

Thanks bud. Na, I don't use dyno's usually, always street tuned in the past. But I will be there if I have to buy any new parts for sure. Can you get transmission parts? Gears, synchros, ect?

[TheClaw]

So you said you do price match - will you price match online vendors? I'm going to be getting a turbo setup in the near future - I'd rather support local shops, but if they can't touch internet pricing, I'll be shopping online.

[FIMotorsports]

yes, OEM mitsu and TRE.

[fbodymechanic]

Badass. I was going to be looking into rebuilding my trans this winter and I was going to be needing some pieces. I'll let you know then.

[FIMotorsports]

Badass. I was going to be looking into rebuilding my trans this winter and I was going to be needing some pieces. I'll let you know then.

ok, sounds good. just give us a call.

[FuZZy LoGiK]

what about srt parts?

[FIMotorsports]

what about srt parts?

For the most part, got the SRT stuff that i can get too. Some overnight, some 3 days out, dont usually stock SRT parts, but we do work on them

[BoyBeaterTSi]

It is a fully brake loadable dyno. Havn't seen it break a tranny or t case yet. And we have put many high horsepower cars on it since i have been here including mark miners...

He (2point2fast) used to be the highest horsepower DSM that dyno has ever seen .. I'm sure no one has yet to break that record .. And his car has seen that dyno numerous times in the past ..

[StarEclipseGSX]

Bob's a good guy.. Always very chill and helpful when I go there... Those machined tranny shifter link bushings worked out nice bro good looks... Oh and thanks for the drill bits lol and not havin a problem with me doin them there....

[FIMotorsports]

Bob's a good guy.. Always very chill and helpful when I go there... Those machined tranny shifter link bushings worked out nice bro good looks... Oh and thanks for the drill bits lol and not havin a problem with me doin them there....

Not a prob man. that's what i am here for, is to help out the DSM/EVO community! I'm sure i'll be seeing you around here again soon. If ya every need anything, just give me a shout

[StarEclipseGSX]

yea no doubt.... You know what I do need though I was gonna call but if you can find out about front and rear swaybar replacement bushings and endlinks or bushings.. I don't know if I can just use my endlinks and replace the bushings or they come new in a kit... Can you check what my options are? I need to freshen up the front and rear endlinks and swaybar bushings... Let me know... thanks man..
Oh also poly motor mount kit.. Send me a p.m. on prices

[FIMotorsports]

He (2point2fast) used to be the highest horsepower DSM that dyno has ever seen .. I'm sure no one has yet to break that record .. And his car has seen that dyno numerous times in the past ..

Never said his wasn't. props to him. I was just saying havn't seen the dyno break a tranny or t case since i've been here, and have NEVER seen or heard of this dyno EVER breaking a GOOD tranny yet. I would be up for breaking his record(what was it anyways??), but i recently sold my DSM. Just got the 3000GT(soon to be street legal 600HP pump) and a Evo <---that i would be interested in breaking records with. ha. Gonna be alot of work though.

:b_cyclops

[2point2fast]

Never said his wasn't. props to him. I was just saying havn't seen the dyno break a tranny or t case since i've been here, and have NEVER seen or heard of this dyno EVER breaking a GOOD tranny yet. I would be up for breaking his record(what was it anyways??), but i recently sold my DSM. Just got the 3000GT(soon to be street legal 600HP pump) and a Evo <---that i would be interested in breaking records with. ha. Gonna be alot of work though.

:b_cyclops

759hp and the awesome shity transmission you speak of is the same garbage you are tryn to sell 2 everyone TRE it broke 2 diffrent trans 3 diffrent times shreded gears and broke shafts. now i use an RRT and have no problems at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck breakn my numbers it will probally take 3to4 motors and 8 tre transmissions!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kevin90GSX]

He (2point2fast) used to be the highest horsepower DSM that dyno has ever seen .. I'm sure no one has yet to break that record .. And his car has seen that dyno numerous times in the past ..

2point2fast will you marry me?

[FIMotorsports]

759hp and the awesome shity transmission you speak of is the same garbage you are tryn to sell 2 everyone TRE it broke 2 diffrent trans 3 diffrent times shreded gears and broke shafts. now i use an RRT and have no problems at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck breakn my numbers it will probally take 3to4 motors and 8 tre transmissions!!!!!!!!!!!!

For your information bud, we are NOW going threw Raif, so know your facts before you speak. VR sold TRE transmissions, and we may still sell parts for these tranny's, but who the hell said i was having TRE build my transmissions???????:tool:

[1995gsx20g]

FIM, i sent you a pm

[FIMotorsports]

FIM, i sent you a pm

Got no PM???

[Ronnie Size]

For your information bud, we are NOW going threw Raif, so know your facts before you speak. VR sold TRE transmissions, and we may still sell parts for these tranny's, but who the hell said i was having TRE build my transmissions???????:tool:

Again, not very professional. Seriously, with the way you conduct yourself so immaturely, and unprofessionally on this site -- why would anyone want to do business with you? No bullshit, not just trying to start drama, but seriously -- grow up.

[BoyBeaterTSi]

For your information bud, we are NOW going threw Raif, so know your facts before you speak. VR sold TRE transmissions, and we may still sell parts for these tranny's, but who the hell said i was having TRE build my transmissions???????

yes, OEM mitsu and TRE.


Um .. right there. :tool:

[Haze]

+2 for RRT trans...He did 2 for me and both are dope! Shift better than stock


( ok raif, you happy now?)

[6 bolt dreams]

Personally i rather deal with some one acting immature, that is down to earth and honest then some stick in his ass tight wad that all he really cares about is if hes going to make his million this year. I only met bob briefly at dyno day, and chances are he has no clue who i am but regardless hes straight forward and honest. I would love to say that they will be doing all my work but im poor so i do all my work sorry bob.

[FIMotorsports]

Um .. right there. :tool:

WHAT PART OF I SELL, SELLL, SELLLLLLLLL TRE parts dont you understand?? No body asked where i get them built?? Raif does all my builds unless you specifically request TRE. Thanks.

[FIMotorsports]

Personally i rather deal with some one acting immature, that is down to earth and honest then some stick in his ass tight wad that all he really cares about is if hes going to make his million this year. I only met bob briefly at dyno day, and chances are he has no clue who i am but regardless hes straight forward and honest. I would love to say that they will be doing all my work but im poor so i do all my work sorry bob.

Thanks i appriciate it. honesty is key, and that is what i am. If people don't like the facts then they don't have to come here. But i am honest and take pride in all of my customers work. People talk smack, but it's funny, EVERY customer i have had so far(and i've had quite a few (atleast 100 so far), LOVE my work and prices and keep coming back.

[BoyBeaterTSi]

Don't worry I'd never come to you anyway :)

[FIMotorsports]

Don't worry I'd never come to you anyway :)

:werd

[someguyonline]

But what happens when you need a dyno? Or does your friend have one of those in his backyard too?? lol.

umm Yes! lol love that i can say that:laughin

[narf]

Being insured has nothing to do with the legitimacy of a shop.
Reputation is worth its weight in gold, reacting to a potential customer with immaturity shows true character, and outweighs the worthless papers hanging on the wall. You want to know why VR failed in the first place? Keep your attitude and you'll see too.

[FIMotorsports]

Being insured has nothing to do with the legitimacy of a shop.
Reputation is worth its weight in gold, reacting to a potential customer with immaturity shows true character, and outweighs the worthless papers hanging on the wall. You want to know why VR failed in the first place? Keep your attitude and you'll see too.


VR never "failed". If aaron wanted VR to keep growing he would of kept it going. He purposly drilled the company into the ground. He didn't care anymore, he wanted away from the cars, hence why he is in vegas now. And yes reputation is worth ALOT, that's why i am focusing on doing better work then any other shops out there. have had alot of customers so far, and not one complaint. They all like my work. So looks like i just gotta keep busting ass untill 2am. lol. But thanks for the input

[bullett]

You want to know why VR failed in the first place?...attitude....
Absolutely the reason that I and many others who I have talked to, have shied away from the place.

And it was not the attitude of Shaun (sp?)or Brian. Great guys, both of them. But I have personally seen that individual give his pissy ass, better than thou attitude to a top tuner on the East Coast who is one of the nicest guys you will know. Remember, we (the buying public) don't have to buy from a particular place. The reason that we would, would have a lot to do with the attitude of the company toward the buying public. Dave Bushleaguer he was not.

Meh, I've pretty much stayed out of the VR conflict for respect to others that I know who either have worked there or are still working there. The biggest reason I would not frequent the place has left so I will try to make some of my purchases from FIM.

Just a little FWIW,

MB

[6 bolt dreams]

But I have personally seen that individual give his pissy ass, better than thou attitude



MB



That in itself will make a world of difference in business. After dealing with Turbo Bob today hes is in no way like that hes the complete opposite. That alone makes it worth spending my money there, you can tell he enjoys his job & he takes pride in his work. Enough said:corn2

[BoyBeaterTSi]

VR never "failed". If aaron wanted VR to keep growing he would of kept it going. He purposly drilled the company into the ground. He didn't care anymore, he wanted away from the cars, hence why he is in vegas now. And yes reputation is worth ALOT, that's why i am focusing on doing better work then any other shops out there. have had alot of customers so far, and not one complaint. They all like my work. So looks like i just gotta keep busting ass untill 2am. lol. But thanks for the input


LOL! And that's why his partners left him and THEN it ran into the ground .. it failed because he wasn't making any money without his two wonderful, taken for granted partners.

[FIMotorsports]

LOL! And that's why his partners left him and THEN it ran into the ground .. it failed because he wasn't making any money without his two wonderful, taken for granted partners.

Somewhat agreed. Don't know the whole story on the split up. Never asked any questions figuring it was a bad subject, but i would agree that was the point when VR started going downhill.

[frontdriver]

That in itself will make a world of difference in business. After dealing with Turbo Bob today hes is in no way like that hes the complete opposite. That alone makes it worth spending my money there, you can tell he enjoys his job & he takes pride in his work. Enough said

Turbo Bob?

[FIMotorsports]

Turbo Bob?


ehhh, it's a name that stuck with me from the highschool days. lol.

[BoyBeaterTSi]

doesn't go as well as turbo tony.

[FIMotorsports]

doesn't go as well as turbo tony.

Oh well.